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    AMA - I recently served as a juror on a murder trial. The crime happened within the last five years, and the trial happened within the last six months. I'm happy to discuss anything about my experience except:

    • The exact time and location of the crime
    • The names of the people involved

    Those restrictions are to protect the family members involved in the case, and to protect me in case a family member doesn't like the jurors :|

    Any other question is fair game.

    And I'll answer the most salient question here first: we did find the defendant guilty of murder.

    jordanSA•...
    What do you think of the US justice system, given this experience? Any changes from what you thought before, or ideas on making it better? Does the experience change your motivation at all for anything, or inspire you in any direction?...
    law and society
    legal system improvements
    personal motivation and inspiration
    us justice system
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  • jordan avatar

    AI, cameras, drones, and an attempt at a construct-aware take on “crime”. Companies like Flock claim their traffic cameras, drones, and AI can reduce crime to nothing. 

    There are Minority Report concerns but they try to say they that 10% of reported crime is solved by Flock. 

    here's my issue: all the claims and statistics assume an agreed upon definition of crime. But clearly we don't agree: is abortion a crime? What about immigration? Gun ownership? Pollution?

    crime never existed / doesn't / will always depending on the frame we take. We have to take a frame—not trying to go all postmodern here—but I'd like to be more honest and self-aware of it. I'd like to claim our direction, and where we're coming from: fear or love? I think we'd build different systems with more evolutionary processes and back doors, for example. We'd ask questions like "how does crime fit with forgiveness, accountability with love, safety with the illusion of ego and control? Idk, just trying to put some provocative questions out to point to deeper (as in more causative) structures at play here.

    i love police and want to transcend and include traditional definitions of safety, in the same way uptrust transcends and includes algorithms.

    What do you think?

    jordanSA•...
    yes I agree it's essential to obey laws one disagrees with to have a functioning society. (If that's the dark in a yin-yang symbol ☯️, the little white dot is that its essential for the occasional civil disobedience)....
    philosophy
    political science
    law and society
    ethics and technology
    parenting and child development
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  • jordan avatar

    AI, cameras, drones, and an attempt at a construct-aware take on “crime”. Companies like Flock claim their traffic cameras, drones, and AI can reduce crime to nothing. 

    There are Minority Report concerns but they try to say they that 10% of reported crime is solved by Flock. 

    here's my issue: all the claims and statistics assume an agreed upon definition of crime. But clearly we don't agree: is abortion a crime? What about immigration? Gun ownership? Pollution?

    crime never existed / doesn't / will always depending on the frame we take. We have to take a frame—not trying to go all postmodern here—but I'd like to be more honest and self-aware of it. I'd like to claim our direction, and where we're coming from: fear or love? I think we'd build different systems with more evolutionary processes and back doors, for example. We'd ask questions like "how does crime fit with forgiveness, accountability with love, safety with the illusion of ego and control? Idk, just trying to put some provocative questions out to point to deeper (as in more causative) structures at play here.

    i love police and want to transcend and include traditional definitions of safety, in the same way uptrust transcends and includes algorithms.

    What do you think?

    Sebi•...
    Isn't it completely okay to disagree with certain aspects of the framework that defines what is considered a crime? Obeying laws that one might find unnecessary or even wrong is still a key part of living in a functioning society....
    ethics
    political science
    law and society
    technology and crime prevention
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